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Retirement Planning Insights

Five Questions with Eric Ludwig, CFP®

 

Ludwig is a financial planner, researcher, and educator with a Master of Science in finance and a PhD in personal financial planning. He also has a wide array of professional experience in the financial services industry, including as a wealth management advisor for U.S. Bank, a researcher at the Investor Behavior Lab, and a peer review board member for the Journal of Financial Planning and the Financial Planning Association (FPA), as well as teaching at various institutions in several capacities. 

We asked Ludwig five questions about his career, his path to the financial services profession, and what he hopes to accomplish as a faculty member at The College. 

How did you decide on financial services as your career path, particularly retirement planning education and research? 

When I was growing up, my dad, who was the CFO of a company, had a hobby of personal investing, and I thought it was normal for parents to talk about the Wall Street Journal with their kids. I also had crazy timing with my career journey. I was halfway through flight training when 9/11 happened. After that, I worked as an airline pilot from 2003 to 2007, but the industry was struggling then, and the pay and schedules were pretty bad. During that period, I loved reading everything and anything about personal finance, and I enjoyed helping people as a flight instructor. Eventually, I realized there was a job that combined both those passions – becoming a financial advisor. 

In September of 2007, I made the switch – right before the Great Recession. The market dropped 50% during my first 18 months on the job, greatly impacting me. Despite my best efforts, some clients bailed to preserve their cash during the crisis and didn't get back in until several years later, negatively impacting their retirement plans. That experience sparked my interest in learning more about how to apply the psychology of retirement planning, eventually leading to my pursuit of a PhD specializing in that area of research. Because of my practical experience as a client-facing advisor, I view research through the lens of how advisors can use this information to improve client outcomes. 

How has retirement planning changed since the Covid-19 pandemic, and what are the next big disruptions professionals must look out for? 

One of the most noticeable changes in the financial planning industry is the shift in how services are delivered to clients. In-person meetings at the advisor's office have been augmented, if not replaced, by a significant increase in online platforms such as Zoom. This has opened various new opportunities for advisors to serve their clients online, such as sharing timely information through blogs and podcasts and utilizing online financial planning tools. 

Another trend that has gained momentum is using artificial intelligence (AI) as a tool for advisors to serve clients; however, AI is not expected to replace advisors but rather complement their services. The industry will likely see further advancements in AI, which will continue to enhance how advisors serve their clients. 

What are the most important questions consumers need to be asked—or be asking themselves—about retirement in today’s environment? 

Planning for retirement, and in retirement, is complex and stressful for many people. Pension programs continue to be phased out, and the responsibility is being shifted to individuals to save for their own retirement. Tax laws also change, and, let's face it, the economy is in constant flux. Individuals should ask themselves to what extent they have the knowledge, interest, and time to do it on their own or whether they would benefit from the help of a well-educated advisor. 

Results from previous retirement income literacy surveys show general overconfidence regarding what people think they know about retirement planning versus how much they actually know. The results of The College’s 2023 survey will highlight areas where advisors can help clients with their financial outcomes, retirement income planning, and how to help increase their retirement confidence. 

What do you think The College’s Retirement Income Certified Professional® (RICP®) Program program does well, and how will it have to evolve? 

I may be biased, but I think the RICP® program should be the go-to choice for advisors specializing in retirement planning. RICP® goes deep into the weeds with three advanced courses that provide specialized training. One of the program's key advantages is its ability to bring in leading subject matter experts from the retirement planning world, such as Michael Kitces and David Blanchett, PhD, MSFS, CFA, CLU®, ChFC®, CFP®. These experts provide cutting-edge, modernized education not found in other financial planning programs. Additionally, the RICP® program focuses on the behavioral side of retirement planning, giving its graduates the technical and soft skills necessary to help clients navigate the complexities of retirement with confidence. 

For advisors who are serious about specializing in retirement planning and providing the best possible service to their clients, the RICP® program is an excellent choice. 

Do you have any pieces of advice for today’s up-and-coming financial professionals? 

I think it goes back to what I’ve been saying throughout this conversation: being a financial professional requires both technical skills and interpersonal skills. 

Take something like building a retirement portfolio and distribution plan for a client that aligns with their wants and needs. That obviously requires a certain amount of technical skill. Now think about what happens during a market downturn or an unexpected health issue pops up. The advisor will also need soft skills like empathy and active listening. 

Ultimately it comes down to the Golden Rule: treat your clients how you would want to be treated.

Learn more about our extensive, intensive retirement incoming planning education with the RICP® Program.

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From The President Insights

As Military Appreciation Month Concludes…

 

Also observed in May is Military Spouse Appreciation Day, celebrated the Friday before Mother's Day, and Armed Forces Day, which honors all those actively serving each year on the third Saturday of May. 

As we go about our pursuits and enjoy our liberties, nearly 1.4 million active duty service members and their spouses stand sentry to ensure our country is ready at a minute's notice. Like our health, our military community, including our guard and reserve service members, is often taken for granted daily. More often than not, when we hear of an overseas conflict, become alerted to a national threat, or require disaster recovery assistance, we acknowledge and admire just how critical they are to our security, safety, and well-being. 

At The College, our military community, veterans and their spouses are a daily priority. Helping them pursue new careers in financial services as they transition to civilian life is part of our mission instituted through our Center for Military and Veterans Affairs. 

I was beyond proud to see a picture of our Center for Military and Veterans Affairs Executive Director Jim Roy, PMP, appear on my screen while watching a segment before Armed Forces Day on the CBS Evening News with Norah O'Donnell last Thursday. O'Donnell discussed the rank of Chief Master Sergeant of the Air Force, the highest enlisted rank in the United States Air Force and a position only held by 19 people to date. Jim is the 16th Chief Master Sergeant of the Air Force. 

I appreciate Jim immensely every day as I do all of our faculty, staff, leadership volunteers, students, and alumni who have served and all the women and men who are serving today for their sacrifices in service to our country. I hope you enjoy this Memorial Day with those you love, doing what you love in remembrance and honor of those who paid the ultimate sacrifice so that we could be free.

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Swapping Old Annuities For New Ones

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CPA, CITP, CFF, CGMA

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FinServe Summit Heralds Increased Amplification of The College’s Mission

 

A group of 16 financial professionals with diverse backgrounds, fields of expertise, and positions in the industry, the FinServe Network is a new initiative by The College to utilize those in its network to amplify The College’s mission within their spheres of influence. Membership in the FinServe Network is an exclusive invitation extended to practitioners who embody lifelong learning and are passionate about advancing the profession to be more diverse and inclusive. 

With 14 of the 16 members of the FinServe Network’s inaugural class represented at the Summit, held in-person at The College’s offices, faculty, staff, and influencers engaged in two days of team-building, panel discussions, coffee talks, and more designed to bring them together, inspire them, and equip them with the tools they need to spread the word about The College to their communities.

A Powerful Introduction

 

The FinServe Network ambassadors arrived at The College on Monday from hometowns all across the country–some even from as far away as Alaska and California. They joined in the excitement felt by The College’s professional staff as Chief Marketing Officer Jared Trexler led the unveiling of The College’s reimagined brand, a sneak peek at its new website, and an overview of the “Your Life’s Work” campaign meant to introduce diverse communities to the multitude of opportunities available to them at The College. 

Trexler and other members of The College’s Marketing and Communications team emphasized how this trifecta of changes would enhance the ability of those present to share The College’s story with others and communicate the value of its programs, not just as a leader in financial services education, but as a difference-maker that seeks to better the profession and society through financial knowledge.

To that end, faculty members Timi Joy Jorgensen, PhD, and Valencia Gabbay presented the latest iteration of Know Yourself, Grow Your Wealth: The College’s consumer financial education program designed to help those in underserved communities to grow in personal finance knowledge. Jorgensen and Gabbay highlighted the program's benefits to advisors, encouraging them to share the news of its availability to their networks. 

Breaking the Ice and Building Community

 

Following the informational sessions, Senior Director of Marketing and Media Relations Lindsey Allumbaugh sought to grow the group’s team spirit by having the FinServe ambassadors engage in a few fun activities. In the first game, ambassadors were given a choice between two opposing sides–coffee or tea, vacations at the beach or in the mountains, etc.–to lighten the mood of the gathering and allow them to get to know a bit more about each other. In the second, the ambassadors were encouraged to speak about their “superpower”: not a power they would like to have, but one they already possessed. 

Many ambassadors spoke about their power to connect disparate ideas and different people to foster growth through community and connections, especially ones that might not be expected or commonplace. A few testified to their powerful personalities, from sunny optimism to grounded realism, as what helps them to sway clients and convince them to consider alternatives to their preconceived notions about financial planning. Still others referred to their backgrounds from diverse communities as a force that drives them to serve others or a passion for giving back. 

These talents were the focus of the day’s last activity, an inspirational conversation with Deirdre Van Nest of Crazy Good Talks®. In her session, Van Nest testified to the power of personal stories and emotional connection as the key to effective speaking. Rather than simply trying to convince or sell their clients on ideas by presenting facts, Van Nest shared her own highly affecting story of losing her mother in a car accident to prove the point that emotional appeals are at the core of creating relationships based on trust–an especially important skill for FinServe ambassadors to have. 

A Meeting of the Minds

 

The FinServe ambassadors reconvened Tuesday morning for coffee and a discussion session with College President and CEO George Nichols III, CAP®. President Nichols painted a picture of how far The College has come in its nearly 100-year history and how far he envisions it going as it works to fulfill current strategic initiatives designed to set a new standard in the industry. While candid, President Nichols was full of enthusiasm and hope for the future–and his sentiments were shared by the ambassadors, who excitedly peppered him with questions about what they could do to help The College move forward in its mission. 

Afterward, the ambassadors heard from The College’s leading faculty in a panel discussion distilling recent research initiatives and their results. Faculty members represented included: Michael Finke, PhD, CFP®, Wealth Management Certified Professional® (WMCP®) Program Director; Eric Ludwig, CFP®, Retirement Income Certified Professional® (RICP®) Program Director; Chet Bennetts, CFP®, ChFC®, CLU®, RICP®, CLF®, director of the CFP® Certification Education Program and Chartered Financial Consultant® (ChFC®) Program; Keith Gatto, PhD, Assistant Professor; Sophia Duffy, JD, CPA, Associate Professor of Business Planning; and David Pierce, MSFS, MSM, MA, AEP®, CLF®, ChFC®, CLU®, Certified Financial Fiduciary®, Chartered Life Underwriter® (CLU®) Program Director. 

Ambassadors once again freely engaged throughout the presentation session and asked many impactful questions about the implications of the findings and how they saw The College’s programming evolving in the years to come. 

Conversations and Connections

 

The late morning and the early afternoon saw ambassadors being split into smaller groups for the final activities of their visit: panel discussions. 

Ambassadors were grouped by specialty and area of focus for several discussions capturing insights into retirement planning today, DEI in practice, and opportunities and challenges in philanthropic advising. A member of The College’s faculty or leadership team led and moderated each discussion. 

In the first panel on retirement planning, Ludwig led a discussion with ambassadors Jason Austell, CFP®, MSFS, ChFC®, CLU®, CASL®, RICP®, AEP®, CAP®, Nancy Du, RICP®, CFP®, Padric Scott, AEP®, CFP®, ChFC®, CLU®, WMCP®, CCFC, and Terry Parham, Jr., CFP®, ChFC®, CLU®, RICP®, WMCP®. Ludwig pointed out the two biggest disruptors in current retirement planning–inflation and market volatility–and asked the ambassadors about their strategies for handling them.

For the second panel, Finke headed a conversation focused on challenges facing independent advisors from RIA firms featuring ambassadors Andrew Tudor, CFP®, CAP®, Angie Ribuffo, CFP®, RICP®, ChFC®, CDFA®, CLTC®, WMCP®, Heather Welsh, CFP®, AEP®, MSFS, and Scott Winslow, MSFS, ChFC®, CLU®, RICP®, AEP®, CCFC. Finke pointed out that 2022 was an interesting year for advisors, especially those going independent, due to fluctuations in investment products and a rising number of clients needing retirement planning services.

The third panel, including and moderated by President Nichols, looked at diversity, equity, and inclusion in the financial services industry. Ambassadors Fatima Williams, FSCP®, Alanah Phillips, Centario Grier, and Marco Williams talked about their experiences as women and people of color getting started in the industry and advancing in the profession. They emphasized leaning into what makes you unique despite a culture that often browbeats people into fitting a mold.

Finally, the last panel on philanthropic advising included recent Chartered Advisor in Philanthropy® graduate President Nichols and two ambassadors specializing in giving back: Rick Peck, CAP®, and Mary Fischer-Nassib, CAP®. Peck, a gift planner with a charitable foundation, and Fischer-Nassib, founder of her own organization focusing on making an impact through athletic programs, talked about current challenges, trends, and opportunities in philanthropic advising.

A Celebratory Conclusion

 

A final address from Trexler and Nichols and a champagne toast tied a bow on the inaugural FinServe Summit and sent the ambassadors on their way with inspirational words and the promise of an impactful collaboration to come–as well as new bonds of friendship and fellowship formed. 

We thank all the members of our first FinServe Network class for their service to The College and dedication to advancing our mission to benefit society! Check out the recap reel below to view the Summit’s video highlights.

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Ethics In Financial Services Insights

How Personal Relationships Affect Trust in Financial Services

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The results showed that while the industry has come a long way since public trust in financial services cratered in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis, there is still a long way to go when it comes to earning the confidence of diverse groups of clients and those outside the system of traditional financial services companies. 

In a new report released in April 2023, the Center for Ethics in Financial Services continued to highlight the sources of consumer anxiety when dealing with financial services companies and which companies were more likely to earn the public’s trust. 

In the report, experts from the Center write that consumer trust in financial services comes with some latitude for mistakes but is also easily lost when consumers have negative experiences that question whether it was wise to trust in the first place. In addition, there is significant complexity around the factors that drive whether individuals trust an organization. These include three general domains of trust factors: psychological, experience, and demographics. 

Among the psychological factors that drive trust for consumers, the Center’s research identified five key points: company behavior and values; what consumers hear about experiences with a company from others; levels of personalization and individualized service; how organizations protect their clients from fraud and act transparently toward them; and what kinds of reviews a company has from reputable sources. All can play a significant role and, when taken together, provide a potential blueprint for how financial services companies can approach consumers who may tend toward lower levels of trust.

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The Center found that more often than not, personal relationships formed due to experience with a financial services professional or company matter significantly. In addition, an important marker of an organization consumers feel they can trust is the consistency with which they are present in the community: are employees treated well? Is the community treated well? 

Organizations, such as investment app companies and online-only or mobile banks, tend to have fewer opportunities for direct engagement or to form personal relationships. In this study, they also trended lower on trust indexes – proving the “experience gap” is a real and enduring factor the industry must consider.

Access our research brief offering pathways to trust in financial services.

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